Since a few weeks, I’m using an iRiver instead of an iPod.
My first task was to transfer my music from the iPod to the iRiver. And to be honest, it took me a few days before I succeeded. The iPod organizes his files in a way that’s not meant for manual intervention. Files are placed in a set of folders, but you can’t do a search on it and look for a specific song for example that you want to copy to another device. That’s why I used a small program, named Copypod. The trial version did it for me, but if I need to use it again, I will no hesitate to buy it. Note that the trial version let’s you copy only 100 files at once.
These vendors are smart. Add your stuff on a device goes fast, but moving it…
I need to say something that the Apple freaks will adore. Starting up my iRiver takes 150 secs (Viking’s one only needs 40 secs). That’s a real negative point. Viking and I have almost the same number of files, but I have at least twice as much albums and artists. I’m thinking now of creating fake albums for all these stand alone songs.
The next issue is navigating. It’s really strange when you discover the fact that you can only browse the content via the file tree out of the box. You can enable a option which allows you to browse the content through the familiar items like artist, album and genre. However, the iRiver needs a database for it which can be generated by a tool you get with it. However, that crashes more often than it works. In the US, it’s possible to sync with Windows Media Player. The international version of the iRiver is not recognized by Windows Media player as a syncable device. And there are more differences:
The U.S. version comes with a clock and can syncronize with WMP enabling it to upload and play DRM protected music, such as you buy from Napster and iTunes. The U.S. version is not supposed to support usb on the go (usbotg) that allows the player to download files from digital cameras, usb memory sticks and other portable devices without a pc.
What can you do about it if you want to browse using the tags instead of the file tree? A free solution is the use of Tag Database tool which creates a database containing the ID Tag information of each music file. We choose to buy Irivium Explorer from Red Chair Software.
I use Irivium now to sync, transfer music, make playlists, organize and even allows you to stream the content so that we can play our music on our Airport Express via Itunes. You can check the complete list with features here.
I’m OK now with the navigation, but I need to work on the startup time. It must be said, that the iPod definitely scores better on all the points mentioned above. But even with all the negative implications, I don’t want to switch back. The iRiver is just a completer device for me (all you Apple fans note that I marked the “me” in bold and didn’t say “in general”) then the iPod was.
I think, the geekier you are, the more you will appreciate the iRiver. Just look at how Viking adapted his iRiver into a Doppler version:


August 17th, 2005 - 14:30
I have an iRiver too and I choose Allway Sync to sync my iRiver with My computer. Check out my review of it on my blog:
http://mollyzine-podcasting.blogspot.com/2005/08/allway-sync-perfect-sync-tool-for.html
One of the great features (especially with the iRiver) is that it will automatically start the sync when drive letter is detected (this is the coolest).
HTH
Molly
August 18th, 2005 - 10:02
About the startup time problem : the ipod is never turned off when you turn it off it is in some sort of stand by mode and draining battery, but it does give a faster startup.
Be aware that rockbox is working on a open source firmware that seems to be very good check it out on http://www.misticriver.us and http://www.rockbox.org
good decision to switch to iriver
Have my iHP120 almost 2 years now used almost daily no probs with it saw my sisters ipod return to apple 2 times in 1 year (could be her way of working with it ofcourse;)
August 19th, 2005 - 10:05
Thx Guys, I’ll check your suggestions.
November 12th, 2005 - 19:01
yo yo yo the big N is in the house im too poor to afford an i pod
December 27th, 2005 - 0:04
[...] Mijn eerste mp3-speler was een iPod (4e generatie, 40 GB en nu te koop). Een paar avonden werden toen helemaal ingenomen door mijn muziek CD’s. Via iTunes heb ik die geïmporteerd en omgezet naar mp3 formaat (AAC is ook mogelijk, maar gelukkig heb ik daar toen niet voor gekozen want mijn huidige mp3 speler ondersteunt dat niet). Ik besloot maar een deel van mijn CD-collectie om te zetten omdat ik geen back-up van de data op een harde schijf kon aanmaken (te weinig ruimte op de portable en op dat moment geen ander extern device in mijn bezit). Die back-up is een aanrader. Bij beschadiging, defect of diefstal heb je op die manier nog altijd je data (tenzij ze beiden sneuvelen natuurlijk) en daarnaast is synchronisatie van data daar nu eenmaal op gebaseerd. Ik had de back-up niet en realiseerde mij dat bij een defect alles opnieuw zou moeten importeren. Het defect heeft nooit plaats gevonden, maar er gebeurde 8 maanden na de aankoop van de iPod wel iets anders: ik schakelde over naar een ander toestel, de iRiver H340. Het gebrek aan een harde schijf maakte het alweer niet gemakkelijk. iTunes had een folderstructuur opgebouwd die niet bruikbaar was voor mijn iRiver. Via Copypod (het volledig verhaal staat hier) slaagde ik er in om uiteindelijk het grootste deel over te zetten. [...]
April 30th, 2006 - 23:41
Hi Smetty,
Tried CopyPod and backed up the ipod, but how did you convert the m4a and m4p files for use on the iriver?
I’m copying from ipod mini to iriverH10.
Any advice much appreciated.
Regards